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CHAPTER XIII.



FIRST INTERVIEW WITH DAVID BRAINERD--SEPARATIONS FROM CHURCHES--LETTER

TO REV. MR. WHITMAN--CORRESPONDENCE WITH MR. CLAP--CHARACTER OF THAT

GENTLEMAN--SERMON AT THE ORDINATION OF MR. ABERCROMBIE--LETTER TO MR.

M'CULLOCH--VIEWS OF THE PROPHECIES RELATIVE TO THE CHURCH--SERMON AT

THE ORDINATION OF MR. BUELL.



In September, 1743, Mr. Edwards, while attending the public

commencement at New-Haven, first became acquainted with David

Brainerd, then a missionary at Kaunaumeek. Brainerd, when a sophomore

in college, in consequence of some indiscreet remarks, uttered in the

ardour of his religious zeal, respecting the opposition of two of the

faculty to the preaching of Mr. Whitefield, but which a generous mind

would have wholly disregarded, had been expelled from the college. As

this was the commencement, at which his class were to receive the

degree of A.B., he came to New-Haven to attempt a reconciliation with

the faculty, and made to them a truly humble and christian

acknowledgment of his fault. "I was witness," says Mr. Edwards, "to

the very christian spirit which Brainerd showed at that time; being

then at New-Haven, and one whom he thought fit to consult on that

occasion. There truly appeared in him a great degree of calmness and

humility; without the least appearance of rising of spirit for any

ill-treatment which he supposed he had suffered, or the least

backwardness to abase himself before those, who, as he thought, had

wronged him. What he did was without any objection or appearance of

reluctance, even in private to his friends, to whom he freely opened

himself. Earnest application was made on his behalf, that he might

have his degree then given him; and particularly by the Rev. Mr. Burr

of Newark, one of the correspondents of the Honourable Society in

Scotland; he being sent from New Jersey to New-Haven, by the rest of

the commissioners, for that end; and many arguments were used, but

without success. He desired his degree, as he thought it would tend to

his being more extensively useful; but still, when he was denied it,

he manifested no disappointment nor resentment."



I have already alluded to the numerous separations of individual

members, from the churches to which they belonged, which occurred

about this period, and usually for the alleged want of piety, either

of the minister or of the church. As these commonly took place without

a regular dismission, it became a practical question of some interest,

how the withdrawing members should be treated. Mr. Edwards, having

been consulted on this subject, with reference to some of the members

of the second church in Hartford, who had thus withdrawn, addressed

the following letter to the minister of that church.



"To the Rev. Elnathan Whitman, of Hartford, Connecticut.



Northampton, Feb. 9, 1744.



rev. and dear sir,



Mr. P--was here this week, and requested my opinion, with respect to

the proper treatment of a number of persons, who have absented

themselves from your meeting, and have since attended public worship

in W ----. I declined giving any opinion, except a very general one,

to him; but, on reflection, have concluded to express my thoughts to

you, as a friend, leaving you to attach to them such weight as you may

see cause.



"As to differences, among professing Christians, of opinion and

practice, about things that appertain to religion, and the worship of

God, I am ready to think that you and I are agreed, as to the general

principles of liberty of conscience; and that men's using methods with

their neighbours, to oblige them to a conformity to their sentiments

or way, is in nothing so unreasonable, as in the worship of God;

because that is a business, in which each person acts for himself,

with his Creator and Supreme Judge, as one concerned for his own

acceptance with him; and on which depends his own, and not his

neighbour's, eternal happiness, and salvation from everlasting ruin.

And it is an affair, wherein every man is infinitely more concerned

with his Creator than he is with his neighbour. And so I suppose that

it will be allowed, that every man ought to be left to his own

conscience, in what he judges will be most acceptable to God, or what

he supposes is the will of God, as to the kind, or manner, or means of

worship, or the society of worshippers he should join with in worship.

Not but that a great abuse may be made of this doctrine of liberty of

conscience in the worship of God. I know that many are ready to

justify every thing in their own conduct, from this doctrine, and I do

not suppose that men's pretence of conscience is always to be

regarded, when made use of to justify their charging the society of

worshippers they unite with, or the means of their worship, or indeed

the kind or manner of their worship. Men may make this pretence at

times under such circumstances, that they may, obviously, be worthy of

no credit in what they pretend. It may be manifest from the nature and

circumstances of the case, and their own manner of behaviour, that it

is not conscience, but petulancy, and malice, and wilfulness, and

obstinacy, that influence them. And, therefore, it seems to me

evident, that, when such pleas are made, those that are especially

concerned with them as persons that are peculiarly obliged to take

care of their souls, have no other way to do, but to consider the

nature and circumstances of the case, and from thence to judge whether

the case be such as will admit of such a plea, or whether the nature

of things will admit of such a supposition, that the men act

conscientiously in what they do, considering all things that appertain

to the case. And in this, I conceive, many things are to be considered

and laid together, as--the nature of that thing is the subject of

controversy, or wherein they differ from others, or have changed their

own practice--the degree in which it is disputable, or how it may be

supposed liable to diversity of opinion, one way or the other, as to

its agreeableness to the word of God, and as to the importance of it,

with regard to men's salvation or the good of their souls--the degree

of knowledge or ignorance of the persons, the advantages they had for

information, or the disadvantages they have been under, and what has

been in their circumstances that might mislead the judgment--the

principles that have been instilled into them--the instructions they

have received from those, of whose piety and wisdom they have had a

high opinion, which might misguide the judgment of persons of real

honesty, and sincerity, and tender conscience--the example of

others--the diversity of opinion among ministers--the general state of

things in the land--the character of the persons themselves--and the

manner of their behaviour in the particular affair in debate.



Now, Sir, with regard to those persons that have gone from you, to

W--however you may look upon their behaviour herein as very

disorderly, yet, if you suppose (the case being considered with all

its circumstances) that there was any room for charity, that it might

be through infirmity, ignorance, and error of judgment, so that they

might be truly conscientious in it; that is, might really believe it

to be their duty, and what God required of them, to do as they have

done; you would, I imagine, by no means think, that they ought to be

proceeded with, in the use of such means as are proper to be used with

contumacious offenders, or those that are stubborn and obstinate in

scandalous vice and wilful wickedness; or that you would think it

proper to proceed with persons, towards whom there is this room left

for charity, that possibly they may be honest and truly conscientious,

acting as persons afraid to offend God, so as to cut them off from the

communion of the Lord, and cast them forth into the visible kingdom of

Satan, to be as harlots and publicans.



Now, it may be well to examine, whether it can positively be

determined, when all things are taken into consideration with respect

to these persons, who have absented themselves from your assembly,

that it is not possible in their case, that this might really be their

honest judgment, that it was their duty to do so, and that God

required it of them, and that they should greatly expose the welfare

of their own souls, in attending no other public worship but that in

your congregation. I suppose these persons are not much versed in

casuistical divinity. They are of the common people, whose judgments,

in all nations and ages, are exceedingly led and swayed. They are not

very capable of viewing things in the extent of their consequences,

and of estimating things in their true weight and importance. And you

know, dear Sir, the state that things have been in, in the country.

You know what opinions have lately prevailed, and have been maintained

and propagated, by those that have been lifted up to heaven, in their

reputation for piety and great knowledge in spiritual things, with a

great part of the people of New England. I do not pretend to know what

has influenced these people, in particular; but I think, under these

circumstances, it would be no strange thing, if great numbers of the

common people in the country, who are really conscientious, and

concerned to be accepted with God, and to take the best course for the

good of their souls, should really think in their hearts that God

requires them to attend the ministry of those that are called New

Light Ministers, and that it would be dangerous to their souls, and

what God approved not of, ordinarily to attend the ministry of others;

yea, I should think it strange if it were otherwise. It ought to be

considered, how public controversy, and a great and general cry in

matters of religion, strongly influences the conduct of multitudes of

the common people, how it blinds their minds, and wonderfully misleads

their judgments. And the rules of the gospel, and the example of the

apostles, most certainly require that great allowances be made in such

cases. And particularly the example of the apostle Paul, with regard

to great numbers of professing Christians, in the church of Corinth;

who, in a time of great and general confusion in that church, through

the evil instructions of teachers whom they admired, who misled and

blinded their judgments, ran into many and great disorders in their

worship, and woeful schisms and divisions among

themselves--particularly with regard to ministers, and even with

regard to the apostle Paul himself, whom many of them seem for a time

to have forsaken, to follow others who set up themselves in opposition

to him; though, as he says, he had been their father who begat them

through the gospel. Yet with how much gentleness does the apostle

treat them, still acknowledging them as brethren; and though he

required church censures to be used with regard to the incestuous

person, yet there is no intimation of the apostle taking any such

course, with those that had been misled by these false teachers, or

with any that had been guilty of these disorders, except with the

false teachers themselves. But as soon as they are brought off from

following these false apostles any longer, he embraces them without

further ado, with all the love and tenderness of a father; burying all

their censoriousness, and schisms, and disorders, at the Lord's

supper, as well as their ill treatment of him, the extraordinary

messenger of Christ to them. And, indeed, the apostle never so much as

gave any direction for the suspension of any one member from the

Lord's supper, on account of these disorders, or from any other part

of the public worship of God; but instead of this, gives them

directions how they shall go on to attend the Lord's supper, and other

parts of worship, in a better manner. And he himself, without

suspension or interruption, goes on to call and treat them as beloved

brethren, Christians, sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints;

and praises God in their behalf, for the grace that is given to them

by Christ Jesus; and often and abundantly exhibits his charity towards

them, in innumerable expressions which I might mention. And nothing is

more apparent than that he does not treat them as persons, with

respect to whom there lies a bar in the way of others treating them

with the charity that belongs to saints, and good and honest members

of the christian church, until the bar be removed by a church process.

And, indeed, the insisting on a church process with every member that

has behaved disorderly, in such a state of general confusion, is not a

way to build up the church of God, (which is the end of church

discipline,) but to pull it down. It will not be the way to cure a

diseased member, but to bring a disease on the whole body.



I am not alone in these sentiments; but I have reason to think that

Col. Stoddard, from the conversation I have had with him, is in the

like way of thinking. There came hither, the last fall, two young men

belonging to the church at New-Haven, who had been members of Mr.

Noyes's church, but had left it and joined the separate church, and

entered into covenant with it, when that church was embodied. This was

looked upon as a crime, that ought not to be passed over, by Mr. Noyes

and the rector. They declared themselves willing to return to Mr.

Noyes's meeting; but a particular confession was required of them in

the meeting-house. Accordingly, each of them had offered a confession,

but it was not thought sufficient; but it was required that they

should add some things, of which they thought hard; and they

consulting me about it, I acquainted Col. Stoddard with the affair,

and desired his thoughts. He said he looked upon it unreasonable to

require any confession at all; and that, considering the general state

of confusion that had existed, and the instructions and examples these

young men had had, it might well be looked upon enough, that they were

now willing to change their practice, and return again to Mr. Noyes's

meeting. Not that you, Rev. Sir, are obliged to think as Col. Stoddard

does; yet I think, considering his character and relation, his

judgment may well be of so much weight, as to engage you the more to

attend to and weigh the reasons he gives.



The objections, that these persons may have had against ordinarily

attending your meeting, may be very trivial; but yet I suppose that,

through infirmity, the case may be so with truly honest Christians,

that trivial things may have great weight in their consciences, so as

to have fast hold of them, until they are better enlightened: as in

the former times of the country, it was with respect to the

controversy between presbyterians and congregationalists. It was, as I

have heard, in those days real matter of question with some, whether a

presbyterian, living and dying such, could be saved. Some

presbyterians, that have lived with us, have desired baptism for their

children, who yet lived in neglect of the ordinances of the Lord Jesus

Christ, because of a difference in some trivial circumstances of the

administration, from the method of the church of Scotland. This matter

being discoursed of, it was thought by Col. Stoddard in particular,

that their neglect ought to be borne with, and they ought to be looked

upon as Christians, and their children received to baptism; because,

however trivial the foundation of their scruples were, yet through

ignorance they might be honest and conscientious in them.



As to the church covenant, that these persons have entered into,

wherein they have obliged themselves ordinarily to join in the worship

of that church; I suppose none interpret the promises of a church

covenant in such a sense, as to exclude all reserves of liberty, in

case of an alteration of the judgment, in the affairs of conscience

and religion, in one respect or another. As if a person, after

incorporating with a congregational church, should become a

conscientious episcopalian, or anabaptist, or should, by any change of

judgment, come to think the means or manner of worship unlawful; and

so in other respects that might be mentioned.



And if it be so that these persons, in some of their conversation and

behaviour, have manifested a contentious, froward spirit, at the time

of their withdrawing from your church; I confess this gives greater

ground of suspicion of the sincerity of their plea of conscience; yet,

as to this, I humbly conceive allowances must be made. It must be

considered, that it is possible that persons, in an affair of this

nature, may, in the thing itself, be conscientious, and yet, in the

course of the management of it, may be guilty of very corrupt mixtures

of passion and every evil disposition; as indeed is commonly the case

with men, in long controversies of whatever nature, and even with

conscientious men. And therefore it appears to me, that if persons in

such a case are not obstinate, in what is amiss in them in this

respect, and don't attempt to justify their frowardness and

unchristian speeches, they notwithstanding may deserve credit, when

they profess themselves conscientious in the affair in general.



Thus, dear Sir, I have freely communicated to you some of my thoughts,

with regard to some of the concerns of this difficult day, which prove

a trouble to you; not however with any aim at directing your conduct,

but merely to comply with the request to which I have alluded. I am

fully sensible, that I am not the pastor of the second church of

Hartford; and I only desire you would impartially consider the reasons

I have offered. Begging of Christ, our common Lord, that he would

direct you in your theory and practice, to that which will be

acceptable in his sight,



I remain, Rev. Sir,



Your friend and brother,



jonathan edwards."



In May, 1743, Mr. Edwards went, as he often did, to Boston, to attend

the convention of the clergy, which is held the day after the General

Election. He was on horseback, and had his eldest daughter on a

pillion behind him. At Brookfield, they fell in company with the Rev.

Mr. Clap, rector of Yale College, his wife and son-in-law, also on

horseback, with several others, all traveling in the same direction;

and Mr. Edwards, joining the company, rode side by side with Mr. Clap,

during a considerable part of the journey. At the commencement of

Harvard college in the following year, 1744, Mr. Clap stated, before a

large number of gentlemen, both at Boston and Cambridge, that, while

riding through Leicester, in May of the year preceding, he was

informed by Mr. Edwards, that Mr. Whitefield told him, "that he had

the design of turning out of their places the greater part of the

ministers of New England, and of supplying their pulpits with

ministers from England, Scotland, and Ireland." This statement

surprised those who heard it; yet, coming from such a source, it was

believed, and extensively circulated. Mr. Edwards heard of it with

astonishment, and without hesitation denied that he had said so. Mr.

Clap, hearing of this denial, addressed a letter to Mr. Edwards, dated

Oct. 12, 1744, in which he stated anew the alleged conversation, in

the same terms; but before the latter received it, he had forwarded a

letter to Mr. Clap, dated Oct. 18, 1744, showing him his mistake, and

calling on him to correct it. On Oct. 29th, he wrote a reply to Mr.

Clap's letter of the 12th; and receiving another, dated Oct. 28th,

before he sent it, he replied to that also in the postscript, under

date of Nov. 3d. Mr. Clap, finding that Mr. Edwards's contradiction of

his statement was believed; and having heard, though incorrectly, that

Mr. Edwards was about to publish such a contradiction; incautiously

published a letter to his friend in Boston, in which he not only

re-asserted his former statement, but declared that Mr. Edwards, in

his private correspondence with him on the subject, had made a

declaration, equally full and strong, to the same point. Mr. Edwards

published a reply, in a letter to his friend in Boston, dated Feb. 4,

1745; in which he gave his two letters of Oct. 18, and Oct. 29, with

the postscript of Nov. 3; from which it appears that, instead of

admitting the truth of Mr. Clap's statement, he had most explicitly

and solemnly denied it; and, in order to show how Mr. Clap might have

been led into the mistake, acknowledged that he himself supposed that

Mr. Whitefield was formerly of the opinion, that unconverted ministers

ought not to be continued in the ministry; and that he himself

supposed that Mr. Whitefield endeavoured to propagate this opinion,

and a practice agreeable to it; and that all he had ever stated to any

one was, his own opinion merely, and not any declared design of Mr.

Whitefield. He also admitted, that Mr. Whitefield told him he intended

to bring over a number of young men, to be ordained by the Messrs.

Tennents, in New Jersey. He then asks, whether this is the same thing

as Mr. Clap asserted, and suggests a variety of arguments, which seem

absolutely conclusive, that he could never have made such a statement.



Mr. Clap, in reply to this, in a letter to Mr. Edwards, dated April 1,

1745, enters seriously upon the task of showing that Mr. Edwards's

assertion--"that Mr. Whitefield told him, that he intended to bring

over a number of young men, to be ordained by the Messrs. Tennents, in

New Jersey"--connected with the assertion--that Mr. Edwards himself

supposed, that Mr. Whitefield was formerly of the opinion, that

unconverted ministers ought not to be continued in the ministry, and

that Mr. Edwards himself supposed that Mr. Whitefield endeavoured to

propagate this opinion, and a practice agreeable to it--was equivalent

to Mr. Edwards's saying, that Mr. Whitefield told him, "that he had

the design of turning out of their places the greater part of the

ministers of New England, and of supplying their places with ministers

from England, Scotland, and Ireland."



Mr. Edwards, in a letter to Mr. Clap, of May 20, 1745, after exposing

in a few words the desperate absurdity of this attempt, enters on the

discussion of the question--Whether he ever made such a statement to

Mr. Clap?--with as much calmness as he afterwards exhibited in

examining the question of a self-determining power; and with such

logical precision of argument, that probably no one of his readers

ever had a doubt left upon his mind, with regard to it;--no, not even

his antagonist himself; for he never thought proper to attempt a

reply; and in the public protest of the faculty of Yale college,

against Mr. Whitefield, he and his associates in office say, in

alluding to this very conversation, "You told the Rev. Mr. Edwards of

Northampton, that you intended to bring over a number of young men

from England, to be ordained by the Tennents." Those who have an

opportunity of reading these communications, will find, in those of

Mr. Edwards, an example of a personal controversy, conducted

throughout, and to a very uncommon degree, in the spirit of the

gentleman and the Christian.



This occurred at a period of great excitement, when many ministers had

been removed, and many churches rent asunder; and when the minds of

men were of course prepared beforehand to believe every thing that

favoured their own side of the question. Mr. Clap was in this case

obviously mistaken; still he was truly a man of respectability and

worth. He had a powerful mind, rich in invention, and stored with

knowledge, was profoundly versed in mathematics, physics, and

astronomy, as well as the principles of law, and proved an able

instructor and governor of the institution over which he presided. He

was elected by a board of trustees, exclusively Arminian in sentiment,

and all his associates in office held the same tenets. At the same

time, though he entered warmly into the controversy relative to Mr.

Whitefield, from a full conviction that it was his design to occasion

the separation of churches, and to procure as far as possible the

ejectment of all whom he regarded as unconverted ministers; and was

doubtless happy in supposing himself able to prove that such was his

avowed design, on the testimony of one of his warmest friends; yet he

was far from taking the low ground of orthodoxy assumed by many on the

same side, but always adhered to the doctrines of grace, and

ultimately became their champion. Some time after this, he showed his

magnanimity, by introducing the Essay on the Freedom of the Will, as a

classic in the college.



In August, 1744, Mr. Edwards preached the sermon entitled, "The True

Excellency of a Gospel Minister," at the ordination of Mr. Robert

Abercrombie, to the ministry of the gospel, at Pelham. This gentleman

was from Scotland, having been made known to Mr. Edwards by his

correspondents in that country; and through his kind offices was

introduced to the people at Pelham. The sermon was immediately

published.



The reader will probably recollect, that Mr. M'Culloch, in his letter

of August 13, 1743, had expressed the opinion, that the church of God,

previous to her ultimate extension and triumph, was destined to meet

with "more extensive and formidable trials," than she had ever before

experienced. Mr. Edwards, from a minute investigation of the

scriptural prophecies, having been convinced that this, which was at

that time the commonly received opinion of the church, was erroneous;

expresses his dissent from it in the following answer.



"To the Rev. Mr. M'Culloch.



Northampton, March 5, 1744.



rev. and dear sir,



I return you thanks for your most obliging, entertaining, and

instructive letter, dated Aug. 13, 1743, which I received about the

latter end of October: my answering which has been unhappily delayed,

by reason of my distance from Boston, and not being able to find any

opportunity to send thither, till the ship was gone that brought your

letter; which I much regretted. My delaying to answer has been far

from arising from any indifference with respect to this

correspondence, by which I am sensible I am highly honoured and

privileged.



"Tis probable that you have been informed, by other correspondents,

before now, what the present state of things in New England is: it is,

indeed, on many accounts very melancholy; there is a vast alteration

within these two years; for about so long I think it is, since the

Spirit of God began to withdraw, and this great work has been on the

decline. Great numbers in the land, about two years ago, were raised

to an exceedingly great height in joy and elevation of mind; and

through want of watchfulness, and sensibleness of the danger and

temptation that there is in such circumstances, many were greatly

exposed, and the devil taking the advantage, multitudes were soon, and

to themselves insensibly, led far away from God and their duty; God

was provoked that he was not sanctified in this height of advancement,

as he ought to have been; he saw our spiritual pride and

self-confidence, and the polluted flames that arose of intemperate,

unhallowed zeal; and he soon, in a great measure, withdrew from us;

and the consequence has been, that the enemy has come in like a flood,

in various respects, until the deluge has overwhelmed the whole land.

There had from the beginning been a great mixture, especially in some

places, of false experiences, and false religion with true; but from

about this time, the mixture became much greater, many were led away

with sad delusions; and this opened the door for the enemy to come in

like a flood in another respect, it gave great advantages to these

enemies and opposers of this work, furnished them with weapons and

gave them new courage, and has laid the friends of the work under such

disadvantage, that nothing that they could do would avail any thing to

withstand their violence. And now it is come to that, that the work is

put to a stop every where, and it is a day of the enemy's triumph; but

I believe also a day of God's people's humiliation, which will be

better to them in the end than their elevations and raptures. The time

has been amongst us when the sower went forth to sow, and we have seen

the spring wherein the seed sprang up in different sorts of ground,

appearing then fair and flourishing; but this spring is past, and we

now see the summer, wherein the sun is up with a burning heat, that

tries the sorts of ground; and now appears the difference, the seed in

stony ground, where there was only a thin layer of earth on a rock,

withers away, the moisture being dried out; and the hidden seeds and

roots of thorns, in unsubdued ground, now spring up and choke the seed

of the word. Many high professors are fallen, some into gross

immoralities, some into a rooted spiritual pride, enthusiasm, and an

incorrigible wildness of behaviour, some into a cold frame of mind,

showing a great indifference to the things of religion. But there are

many, and I hope those the greater part of those that were professed

converts, who appear hitherto like the good ground, and

notwithstanding the thick and dark clouds, that so soon follow that

blessed sunshine that we have had; yet I cannot but stedfastly

maintain a hope and persuasion that God will revive his work, and that

what has been so great and very extraordinary, is a forerunner of a

yet more glorious and extensive work.--It has been slanderously

reported and printed concerning me, that I have often said, that the

Millennium was already begun, and that it began at Northampton. A

doctor of divinity in New England has ventured to publish this report

to the world, from a single person, who is concealed and kept behind

the curtain: but the report is very diverse from what I have ever

said. Indeed I have often said, as I say now, that I looked upon the

late wonderful revivals of religion as forerunners of those glorious

times so often prophesied of in the Scripture, and that this was the

first dawning of that light, and beginning of that work, which, in the

progress and issue of it, would at last bring on the church's

latter-day glory; but there are many that know that I have from time

to time added, that there would probably be many sore conflicts and

terrible convulsions, and many changes, revivings, and intermissions,

and returns of dark clouds, and threatening appearances, before this

work shall have subdued the world, and Christ's kingdom shall be every

where established and settled in peace, which will be the lengthening

of the Millennium or day of the church's peace, rejoicing, and triumph

on earth, so often spoken of. I was much entertained and delighted,

dear Sir, with your thoughts on that text in Isa. lix. 19. which you

signify in your letter, and so have many others been to whom I have

communicated them; and as to what you say of some dreadful stroke or

trial yet abiding, before the happy days of the promised peace and

prosperity of the church, I so far agree with you, that I believe

that, before the church of God shall have obtained the conquest, and

the visible kingdom of Satan on earth shall receive its overthrow, and

Christ's kingdom of grace be every where established on its ruins,

there shall be a great and mighty struggle between the kingdom of

Christ and the kingdom of Satan, attended with the greatest and most

extensive convulsions and commotion, that ever were upon the face of

the earth, wherein doubtless many particular Christians will suffer,

and perhaps some parts of the church.



"But that the enemies of the church of God should ever gain such

advantages against her any more, as they have done in times past, that

the victory should ever any more be on their side, or that it shall

ever be given to the beast again to make war with the saints, and to

prevail against them, and overcome them, (as in Rev. xiii. 7. and Rev.

xi. 7. and Dan. vii. 21.) to such a degree as has been heretofore, is

otherwise than I hope. Though in this I would be far from setting up

my own judgment, in opposition to others, who are more skilled in the

prophecies of Scripture than I am. I think that what has mainly

induced many divines to be of that opinion, is what is said in Rev.

xi. chap. xi. concerning the slaying of the witnesses, Rev. xi. 7,

8.ver. 7, 8. `And when they shall have finished their testimony, the

beast, that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit, shall make war

against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead

bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,' &c.



The event here spoken of, seems evidently to be that wherein the

enemies of the church gain the greatest advantage against her that

ever they have, and have the greatest conquest of her that ever they

obtained, and bring the church nearest to a total extinction. For a

long time the church is very small, represented by two witnesses, and

they had been long in a very low state, prophesying in sackcloth; but

now they are dead and their enemies triumph over them, as having

gotten a complete victory, and look upon it that they are now past all

possibility of recovery, there being less prospect of the church's

restoration than ever there was before. But are we to expect this,

dear Sir, that Satan will ever find means to bring things to pass,

that after all the increase of light that has been in the world, since

the Reformation, there shall be a return of a more dark time than in

the depth of the darkness of popery, before the Reformation, when the

church of God shall be nearer to a total extinction, and have less of

visibility, all true religion and light be more blotted out of the

memories of mankind, Satan's kingdom of darkness be more firmly

established, all monuments of true religion be more abolished, and

that the state of the world should be such, that it should appear

further from any hope of a revival of true religion than it ever has

done; is this conceivable or possible, as the state of things now is

all over the world, even among papists themselves, without a miracle,

a greater than any power short of divine can effect, without a long

tract of time, gradually to bring it to pass, to introduce the

grossest ignorance and extinguish all memory and monuments of truth;

which was the case in that great extinction of true religion that was

before the Reformation. And besides, if we suppose this war of the

beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit with the witnesses,

wherein he overcomes them and kills them, to be that last war which

the church shall have with the beast, that great and mighty conflict

that shall be just before the final overthrow of antichrist, that we

read of in the 16th chap. the 13th and following verses, and in the

19th chapter how shall we make them consist together? In the 11th

chapter the church conflicts in sorrow, clothed in sackcloth, and in

blood; in the 19th chap. the saints are not represented as fighting in

sorrow and blood, though the battle be exceedingly great, but in

strength, glory, and triumph. Their Captain goes forth to this battle,

in great pomp and magnificence, on a white horse, and on his head many

crowns, and on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King of

Kings and Lord of Lords; and the saints follow him, not in sackcloth,

but coming forth on white horses, clothed in pure linen, clean and

white, the raiment of triumph, the same raiment that the saints appear

in, Rev. vii. 14. when they appear with palms in their hands, after

they had washed their robes, that had been stained with their own

blood, and made themselves white in the blood of the Lamb. In the

conflict spoken of in chap. xi. the beast makes war with the

witnesses, and overcomes them, and kills them: the same is foretold,

Dan. vii. 21. and Rev. xiii. 7. But in that last great battle, just

before the fall of antichrist, we find the reverse of this; the church

shall obtain a glorious victory over the beast, and the beast is taken

and cast into the lake of fire. Rev. xvii. 14. `These shall make war

with the Lamb; and the Lamb shall overcome them; for he is Lord of

Lords and King of Kings; and they that are with him are called, and

chosen, and faithful:' compared with chap. xix. 16, to the end, and

chap. xvi. 16, 17. In that conflict, chap. xi. the beast has war with

the witnesses, and kills them, and their dead bodies lie unburied, as

if it were to be meat for the beasts of the earth and fowls of heaven;

but in that last conflict, Christ and his church shall slay their

enemies, and give their dead bodies to be meat for the beasts of the

earth and fowls of heaven, chap. xix. 17. &c. There is no manner of

appearance in the descriptions that are given of that great battle, of

any great advantages gained in it against the church, before the enemy

is overcome, but all appearance of the contrary. The descriptions in

the16th and 19th chapters of Rev. will by no means allow of such an

advantage, as that of the overcoming and slaying of the church, or

people of God, and their lying for some time unburied, that their dead

bodies may be for their enemies to abuse and trample on, and make

sport with. In the 16th chap. we have an account of their being

gathered together into the place called Armageddon; and then the first

thing we hear of after that, is the pouring out of the seventh vial of

God's wrath, and a voice saying, It is done; and so in chap. xix. we

read of the beast, and the kings of the earth and their armies being

gathered together, to make war against him that sat on the horse, and

against his army; and then the next thing we hear of is the beast's

being taken, &c. The event of the conflict of the beast with the

church, chap. xi. is the triumph of the church's enemies, when they of

the people, and kindred, and tongues, and nations, and they that dwell

on the earth, shall see the dead bodies of the saints lying in the

streets, and shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and send gifts

one to another. But the event of that great and last battle, before

the fall of antichrist, is quite the reverse of this, even the

church's triumphing over their enemies, as being utterly destroyed.

Those events, that are consequent on the issue of the war with the

witnesses, chap. xi. do in no wise answer to those, that are

represented as consequent on that last conflict of antichrist with the

church. `Tis said that when the witnesses ascended into heaven, the

same hour there was an earthquake, and the tenth part of the city

fell; and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand! but this

don't seem at all to answer what is described, chap. xvi. and xix. The

great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations

fell; and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give her

the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath; and every island

fled away, and the mountains were not found. And it had been said

before, that there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men

were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And in

chap. xix. instead of slaying seven thousand men, it seems as if there

was a general slaughter of all the enemies of the church, through the

world. And besides, if we read this 11th chapter through, we shall see

that the falling of the tenth part of the city and the rising of the

witnesses, and their standing on their feet and ascending into heaven,

are represented there as entirely distinct from the accomplishment of

the church's glory, after the fall of antichrist, and God's judging

and destroying the enemies of the church. The judgment here spoken of,

as executed on God's enemies, are under another woe, and the benefits

bestowed on the church, are under another trumpet: for immediately

after the account of the rising and ascending of the witnesses, and

its consequences, follow these words, ver.14, 15. `The second woe is

past, and behold the third woe cometh quickly. And the seventh angel

sounded, and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms

of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ,

and he shall reign for ever and ever.' And in the following verses, we

have an account of the praises sung to God on the occasion; and in the

last verse we have a brief hint of that same great earthquake, and the

great hail, and those thunders, and lightnings, and voices, that we

have an account of in the latter part of chap. xvi. so that the

earthquake mentioned in the last verse of Rev. xi.chap. xi. seems to

be the great earthquake, that attends the last great conflict of the

church and her enemies, rather than that mentioned ver. 13.



The grand objection against all this is, that it is said, that the

witnesses should prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days,

clothed in sackcloth; and when they have finished their testimony, the

beast should make war against them, and kill them, &c. and that it

seems manifest that after this they are no longer in sackcloth; for

henceforward they are in an exalted state in heaven: and that

therefore, seeing the time of their wearing sackcloth is one thousand

two hundred and sixty days, i.e. during the time of the continuance of

antichrist; hence their being slain, and their rising again, must be

at the conclusion of this period, at the end of antichrist's reign.



In answer to which I would say, with submission to better judgments,

that I humbly conceive that we can justly infer no more from this

prophecy than this, viz. that the one thousand two hundred and sixty

days is the proper time (as it were) of the church's trouble and

bondage, or being clothed in sackcloth, because it is the appointed

time of the reign of antichrist; but this don't hinder but that God,

out of great compassion to his church, should, in some respect,

shorten the days, and grant that his church should in some measure

anticipate the appointed great deliverance that should be at an end of

these days, as he has in fact done in the Reformation; whereby his

church has had a great degree of restoration granted her, from the

darkness, power, and dominion of antichrist, before their proper time

of restoration, which is at the end of the one thousand two hundred

and sixty days; and so the church, through the compassion of her

Father and Redeemer, anticipates her deliverance from her sorrows; and

has, in some respects, an end put to her testifying in sackcloth, as

many parts of the church are henceforward brought out from under the

dominion of the antichristian powers, into a state of liberty; though

in other respects, the church may be said still to continue in her

sackcloth, and in the wilderness, (as chap. xii. 14.) till the end of

the days. And as to the witnesses standing on their feet, and

ascending into heaven; I would propose that it may be considered,

Whether any more can be understood by it, than the protestant church's

being now (at least as to many parts of it) able to stand on her own

legs, and in her own defence, and being raised to such a state, that

she henceforward is out of the reach of the Romish powers; that, let

them do what they will, they shall never any more be able to get the

church under their power, as they had before; as oftentimes in the

Scriptures God's people dwelling in safety, out of the reach of their

enemies, is represented by their dwelling on high, or being set on

high; Ps. lix. 1. Isa. xxxiii. 16. Ps. lxix. 29. and Ps. xci. 14. and

Ps. cvii. 41. Prov. xxix. 25.; and the children of Israel, when

brought out of Egypt, were said to be carried on eagle's wings, that

is lofty in its flight, flies away towards heaven where none of her

enemies can reach her.



I might here observe, that we have other instances of God's shortening

the days of his church's captivity and bondage, either at the

beginning or latter end, in some measure parallel with this. Thus the

proper time of the bondage of the posterity of Abraham, in a strange

land, was four hundred years, Gen. xv. 13.; but yet God in mercy

delayed their bondage, whereby the time was much shortened at the

beginning. So the time wherein it was foretold, that the whole land of

Israel should be a desolation and an astonishment, and the land should

not enjoy her sabbaths, was seventy years, Jer. xxv. 11, 12.; and

these seventy years are dated in 2 Chron. xxxvi. 20, 21. from

Zedekiah's captivity; and yet from that captivity to Cyrus's decree

was about fifty-two years, though it was indeed about seventy years

before the temple was finished. So the proper time of the oppression

of Antiochus Epiphanes, wherein both the sanctuary and the host should

be trodden under-foot by him, was two thousand and three hundred days,

Dan. vii. 13, 14. and yet God gave Israel a degree of deliverance by

the Maccabees, and they were holpen with a little help, and the host

ceased to be trodden under-foot before that time was expired. Dan. xi.

32, 34.



But in these things, dear Sir, I am by no means dogmatical; I do but

humbly offer my thoughts on what you suggested in your letter,

submitting them to your censure. `Tis pity that we should expect such

a terrible devastation of the church, before her last and most

glorious deliverance, if there be no such thing to be expected. It may

be a temptation to some of the people of God, the less earnestly to

wish and pray for the near approach of the church's glorious day, and

the less to rejoice in the signs of its approach.



But, let us go on what scheme we will, it is most apparent from the

Scriptures, that there are mighty strugglings to be expected, between

the church of God and her enemies, before her great victory; and there

may be many lesser strugglings before that last, and greatest, and

universal conflict. Experience seems to show that the church of God,

according to God's method of dealing with her, needs a great deal

gradually to prepare her for that prosperity and glory that he has

promised her on earth; as the growth of the earth, after winter, needs

gradually to be prepared for the summer heat: I have known instances,

wherein by the heat's coming on suddenly in the spring, without

intermissions of cold to check the growth, the branches, many of them,

by a too hasty growth, have afterwards died. And perhaps God may bring

on a spiritual spring as he does the natural, with now and then a

pleasant sunshiny season, and then an interruption by clouds and

stormy winds, till at length, by the sun more and more approaching,

and the light increasing, the strength of the winter is broken. We are

extremely apt to get out of the right way. A very great increase of

comfort that is sudden, without time and experience, in many

instances, has appeared to wound the soul, in some respects, though it

seems to profit it in others. Sometimes, at the same time that the

soul seems wonderfully delivered from those lusts, that are more

carnal and earthly, there is an insensible increase of those that are

more spiritual; as God told the children of Israel, that he would put

out the former inhabitants of the land of Canaan, by little and

little, and would not consume them at once, lest the beasts of the

field should increase upon them.--We need much experience, to teach us

the innumerable ways that we are liable to err, and to show us the

evil and pernicious consequences of those errors. If it should please

God, before many years, to grant another great revival of religion in

New England, we should perhaps be much upon our guard against such

errors as we have run into, and which have undone us this time, but

yet might run insensibly into other errors that now we think not of.



You inquire of me, Rev. Sir, whether I reject all those for

counterfeits that speak of visions and trances. I am far from doing of

it: I am and always have been, in that matter, of the same opinion

that Mr. Robe expresses, in some of those pamphlets Mr. M'Laurin sent

me, that persons are neither to be rejected nor approved on such a

foundation. I have expressed the same thing in my discourse on `the

Marks of a Work of the True Spirit,' and have not changed my mind.



I am afraid, dear Sir, that I have been too bold with you, in being so

lengthy and tedious, and have been too impertinent and forward to

express my opinion upon this and that; but I consider myself as

writing to a candid, christian friend and brother, with whom I may be

free and bold, and from whom I may promise myself excuse and

forgiveness. Dear brother, asking your earnest prayers for me and for

New England, I am your affectionate brother, and engaged friend and

servant,



jonathan edwards."



The opinion here expressed by Mr. Edwards, was not the result of a

slight and cursory examination of the subject in discussion. He had a

considerable time before examined, at great length, the prophecies of

Daniel and John, with regard to this very point; and, as we shall soon

have occasion to remark, had been convinced that the opinion, then

commonly received, that the severest trials of the church were yet

future, was erroneous.



The Rev. Samuel Buell, whom I have already mentioned, as having

preached at Northampton during the absence of Mr. Edwards, in January,

1742, with uncommon fervour and success, continued his labours, as an

evangelist among the churches, upwards of four years; and at length

accepted of an invitation from the people of East Hampton, a village

in the S. E. corner of Long Island, to become their minister. At his

request, Mr. Edwards went to East Hampton, and there preached his

installation sermon, on the 19th of September, 1746, from Isaiah lxii.

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