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Martin Luther Collection: Luther, Martin - Table Talks: 23. Of The Fathers of the Church



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SUBJECT: 23. Of The Fathers of the Church

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OF THE FATHERS OF THE CHURCH



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DXXV.



I will not presume to criticize too closely the writings of the Fathers,

seeing they are received at the church, and have great applause, for then I

should be held an apostate; but whoso reads Chrysostom, will find he

digresses from the chief points, and proceeds to other matter, saying

nothing, or very little, of what pertains to the business. When I was

expounding the Epistle to the Hebrews, and turned to what Chrysostom had

written thereupon, I found nothing to the purpose; yet I believe that he at

that time, as being the chief rhetorician, had many hearers, though he

taught without profit; for the chief office of a preacher is to teach

uprightly, and diligently to look to the chief points and grounds whereon he

stands, and so instruct and teach the hearers that they understand aright,

and may be able to say: this is well taught. When this is done, he may avail

himself of rhetoric to adorn his subject and admonish the people.





DXXXVI.



Behold what great darkness is in the books of the Fathers concerning

faith; yet if the article of justification be darkened, it is impossible to

smother the grossest errors of mankind. St Jerome, indeed, wrote upon

Matthew, upon the Epistles to Galatians and Titus; but, alas! very coldly.

Ambrose wrote six books upon the first book of Moses, but they are very

poor. Augustine wrote nothing to the purpose concerning faith; for he was

first roused up and made a man by the Pelagians, in striving against them. I

can find no exposition upon the Epistles to the Romans and Galatians,

wherein anything is taught pure and aright. O what a happy time have we now

in regard to the purity of the doctrine; but alas! we little esteem it.

After the Fathers came the pope, and with his mischievous traditions and

human ordinances, like a breaking water-cloud and deluge, overflowed the

church, snared consciences, touching eating of meat, friars hoods, masses,

etc., so that daily he brought abominable errors into the church of Christ;

and to serve his own turn, took hold on St Augustine's sentence, where he

says, Evangelio non crederem, etc. The asses could not see what occasioned

Augustine to utter that sentence, whereas he spoke it against the

Manicheans, as much as to say: I believe you not, for ye are damned

heretics, but I believe and hold with the church, the spouse of Christ,

which cannot err.





DXXVII.



Epiphanius compiled a history of the church long before Jerome; his

writings are good and profitable, and, if separated from dissentious

agruments, worth printing.





DXXVIII.



I much like the hymns and spiritual songs of Prudentius; he was the

best of the Christian poets; if he had lived in the time of Virgil, he would

have been extolled above Horace. I wish the verses of Prudentius were read

in schools, but schools are now become heathenish, and the Holy Scripture is

banished from them, and sophisticated through philosophy.





DXXIX.



We must read the Fathers cautiously, and lay them in the gold balance,

for they often stumbled and went astray, and mingled in their books many

monkish things. Augustine had more work and labor, to wind himself out of

the Father's writings, then he had with the heretics. Gregory expounds the

five pounds mentioned in the Gospel, which the husbandman gave to his

servants to put to use, to be the five senses, which the beasts also

possess. The two pounds, he construes to be the reason and understanding.





DXXX.





The more I read the books of the Fathers, the more I find myself

offended; for they were but men, and, to speak the truth, with all their

repute and authority, undervalued the books and writings of the sacred

apostles of Christ. The papists were not ashamed to say, What is the

Scripture? we must read the holy Fathers and teachers, for they drew and

sucked the honey out of the Scripture. As if God's Word were to be

understood and conceived by none but by themselves, whereas the heavenly

Father says: "Him shall ye hear," who in the gospel taught most plainly in

parables and similitudes.





DXXXI.



Augustine was the ablest and purest of all the doctors, but he could

not of himself bring back things to their original condition, and he often

complains that the bishops, with their traditions and ordinances, troubled

the church more than did the Jews with their laws.





DXXXII.



Faithful Christians should heed only the embassy of our blessed Saviour

Christ, and what he says. All they who alter and construe the Gospel through

human authority, power, and repute, act very unchristianlike and against

God. No temporal potentate allows his ambassador to exceed his instructions,

not in one word; yet we, in this celestial and divine embassage and

legation, will be so presumptuous as to add and diminish to and from our

heavenly instructions, according to our own vain conceits and self-will.





DXXXIII.



I am persuaded that if at this time, St Peter, in person, should preach

all the articles of Holy Scripture, and only deny the pope's authority,

power, and primacy, and say that the pope is not the head of all

Christendom, they would cause him to be hanged. Yea, if Christ himself were

again on earth, and should preach, without all doubt the pope would crucify

him again. Therefore let us expect the same treatment; but better is it to

build upon Christ, than upon the pope. If, from my heart, I did not believe

that after this life there were another, then I would sing another song, and

lay the burthen on another's neck.





DXXXIV.



Lyra's Commentaries upon the Bible are worthy of all praise. I will

order them diligently to be read, for they are exceeding good, especially on

the historical part of the Old Testament. Lyra is very profitable to him

that is well versed in the New Testament. The commentaries of Paulus and

Simigerus are very cold; they may well be omitted and left out, if Lyra

should be reprinted.





DXXXV.



Jerome should not be numbered among the teachers of the church, for he

was a heretic; yet I believe that he is saved through faith in Christ. He

speaks not of Christ, but merely carries his name in his mouth.





DXXXVI.





The Terminists, among whom I was, are sectaries in the high schools;

they oppose the Thomists, the Scotists, and the Albertists; they are also

called Occamists, for Occam, their founder. They are of the newest sect, and

are not strongest in Paris.

The question with them was, whether the word humanitas means a general

humanity, residing in every human creature, as Thomas and others hold. The

Ocamists and Terminists say: It is not in general, but it is spoken in

particular of every human creature; as a picture of a human creature

signifies every human creature.

They are called Terminists, because they speak of a thing in its own

proper words, and do not apply them after a strange sort. With a carpenter

we must speak in his terms, and with such words as are used in his craft, as

a chisel, as axe. Even so we must let the words of Christ remain, and speak

of the sacraments in suis teminis, with such words as Christ used and spake;

as "Do this," must not be turned into "Offer this;" and the word corpus must

not signify both kinds, as the papists tear and torment the words, and

willfully wrest them against the clear text.





DXXXVII.





The master of sentences, Peter Lombard, was a very diligent man, and of

a high understanding; he wrote many excellent things. If he had wholly given

himself to the Holy Scriptures, he had been indeed a great and a leading

doctor of the church; but he introduced into his books unprofitable

questions, sophisticating and mingling all together. The school divines were

fine and delicate wits, but they lived not in such times as we. They got so

far that they taught mankind were not complete, pure, or sound, but wounded

in part, yet they said people by their own power, without grace, could

fulfill the law; though when they had obtained grace, they were able more

easily to accomplish the law, of their own proper power.

Such and the life horrible things they taught; but they neither saw nor

felt Adam's fall, nor that the law of God is a spiritual law, requiring a

complete and full obedience inwardly and outwardly, both in body and soul.





DXXXVIII.



Gabriel Biel wrote a book upon the canon in the mass, which at that

time I held for the best; my heart bled when I read it. I still keep those

books which tormented me. Scotus wrote very well upon the Magister

sententiarum, and diligently essayed to teach upon those matters. Occam was

an able and sensible man.