the angel that talked with me - not the “man upon the red horse,” as is evident from Zec 1:10, where he (the Divine Angel) is distinguished from the “angel that talked with me” (the phrase used of him, Zec 1:13, Zec 1:14; Zec 2:3; Zec 4:1, Zec 4:4, Zec 4:5; Zec 5:5, Zec 5:10; Zec 6:4), that is, the interpreting angel. The Hebrew for “with me,” or, “in me” (Num 12:8), implies internal, intimate communication [Jerome].