Heb 12:7. Εἰ, if) The necessity of discipline is asserted here, and in the following verse; but the duty of those who receive discipline at Heb 12:9, etc. Therefore in Heb 12:7, discipline is rather regarded than patience. In Heb 12:7; Heb 12:9, discipline at the same time comprehends rebuke; but in Heb 12:5, discipline is distinguished from rebuke.-υἱοῖς) not merely τέκνοις. The condition of sons is most glorious.-προσφέρεται) shows Himself in the very act of chastising.-τίς γὰρ, for who) It is taken for granted, that all need chastisement for a fault.